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Conor Gearin's avatar

Re: bumbling in these two shows, and also who Liz is most similar to, I think Miranda and Liz both have a choking-on-dinner-alone-in-apartment scene that prompts deeper reflection. Wild!

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Jane Hyde's avatar

Thank you Daniel for your reminder of other female fictional defenestrations. I recall it happening in Prague long ago, for real, with men. I wonder if that was the precedent. Thank you as always for your great writing.

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Frankie's avatar

Love the brief reference to Skimpole — my mom and I have adopted the habit of saying “I am but a child” in reaction to various things!

Also, with deepest apologies for picking nits — did you mean Mia Farrow’s Rosemary, rather than Carrie Fisher’s?

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Frankie's avatar

Whoops, never mind, I think it was me mistaking the Rosemary in question. Sorry!!

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Jane Hyde's avatar

The infamous (and fatal) tumble out the window references the fate of Kay in The Group, Mary McCarthy's masterpiece which, I seem to recall, inspired Candace Bushnell after she read it on the advice of her mother. Re childishness in grown women: it's what my generation of girls were raised to be and many girls still are, the best sort of woman being a breasted idiot. Liz Lemon is at least funny with it, unlike that other sheila. Great piece as always, thank you Daniel

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Daniel Lavery's avatar

Similar falls occur in both Nella Larsen’s “Passing” and Rona Jaffee’s “The Best of Everything”!

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Nina's avatar

Ha! Cheers for a much better take on (one of) the reasons I detest Carrie 😊

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