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This is an emotional reaction: there's a weird (to me) argument that pops up in arguments about late antiquity about if it "felt like" the Western empire fell. And like... there's a lot of nuance in thin slices of time/space/level of society/etc., but people know when they've lost access to trade networks and physical security their grandparents enjoyed, right?

In olden days a pot of garum

Wasn't so harum-scarum

But Jesu knows

Now anything goes

In olden days the Rhine frontier

Kept Germans from getting nearer

But then it froze

Now anything goes

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i need this musical stat

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I am an air traffic controller, and there are no popular written works about my profession. But if I could eradicate Pushing Tin and Airplane from the movie universe, I would.

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!!! I have so many questions about what life is like as an air-traffic controller and how the specter of Airplane affects you I hardly know where to begin. But I've never heard of Pushing Tin!

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It's a terrible movie starring John Cusack about air traffic controllers. Do not concern yourself with it. :makes vague Force-mind-control gestures at you:.

My primary problem with the movie Airplane is that my coworkers quote it relentlessly.

I am perfectly happy to answer ATC related questions!

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how long have you been doing ATC? how did you get into it??

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I got into ATC because my girlfriend at the time was trying to pick up this hot butch at the local gay country bar. The flirtation proved unfruitful, but my gf and I visited the woman at work - she was a controller. I had been temping clerical work for nearly minimum wage and I realized this might be the only job I was going to be good at.

So I applied to the training program, and got in. I finished in the top quarter of my class and was able to select where I wanted to be placed. I hired in in 1997. At my new facility I trained for an additional two years, more or less. I've been working for almost 25 years, and I retire this fall.

(Controllers can retire as early as age 50, and MUST retire at age 57. This is why applicants must be under 30 years old.)

It really is the only job that would have ever paid me this much to do something I am this good at, and I am really grateful to my ex for having an eye for a suave butch in cowboy boots.

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I like to think that suave butch in cowboy boots was an angel sent to stop a future plane crash by making you an ATC.

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This is my new favorite story.

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That’s such a great story! I knew you were an ATC, but I had never heard your ATC origin story before. Thanks for telling it!

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Thanks! Also, hi Jed!

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Linguists by and large hate The Language Instinct, a work of Chomskyist propaganda that I nonetheless credit solely with introducing me to the field.

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"The Language Instinct" is imperfect, but it at least gets across the idea that language is probably grounded in brain structures, which makes human language different from forms of communication practiced by non-human animals; and all human languages have commonalities because of that, and you can study those from some kind of objective perspective. (I also credit that book with getting me to major in CogSci. I spent the first chunk of my career doing various kinds of language-related software.)

"Words and Rules" is much more committed to the idea that linguistic deep structure is purely tree structures, and it wildly over-states its claims.

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I suspect that this is a common occurrence, that people end up discovering that the book that got them into a subject turns out to be trash. I mean, I guess this isn't a brilliant insight, given that books written for popular audiences are designed to be exciting to people who know nothing about a subject but... Anyhow, I know that I would never in a million years cite most of the stuff that thrilled me when I first started studying religion and folklore.

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The way in which a lot of these books are trash is kind of interesting though. It's like bad academics with an ax to grind are trying to win in the popular conscious because they can't win in academia.

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Physics: Brian Greene's The Elegant Universe. It seemed like everyone read it when it came out in 1999 and suddenly had a Lot of Thoughts About String Theory and Quantum Mechanics without having learned an ounce of either. One of those books where, when someone learns you're a physicist, will lead them to announce, "Ooh, I just read X, what do you think about it?" to an inevitable groan.

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Lexicography: Simon Winchester. First the Professor and the Madman sensationalized something tiny and minor and sad in a field woven with more interesting stories, and then The Meaning of Everything retrod ground already covered more insightfully & intimately by people closer to the work.

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The Hero with a Thousand Faces and Joseph Campbell generally. I majored in religion as an undergrad, and spent a spring break watching a Joseph Campbell marathon with another religion major. I was SO geeked to tell my professors ALL ABOUT IT and the look of pain on their faces was something I will never forget. I have encountered professors in fields outside of religion and folklore—English lit, mostly—who still talk about monomyth and "the hero's journey." Now I am the one with a pained look on my face...

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In the field of Tolkien scholarship, our Manchester is David Day, a guy who wrote a collection of companion books to Tolkien's works and is known for just making shit up and presenting it authoritatively. He created a wildly inaccurate map and just generally invented a lot of details with no basis in Tolkien's writings. It feels like he just assumed nobody would check.

Thankfully he's not doing any actual harm by inventing details to add to middle-earth, but my god is it annoying that he passes his intentions off as canon.

His books are real accessible and fun though. At least one of them is illustrated by Alan Lee, and I don't expect the popularity of his writings to diminish much if ever.

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Wild, by Cheryl Strayed. I'm a serious, (even professional, maybe?) long distance hiker, and I have to say that within the thru-hiking community it probably rises to the same level of iconic dislike. I actually enjoyed the book when I read it, but here's the thing - she didn't thru-hike. It wasn't her goal, she didn't go in with a thru-hiker's mindset, she didn't have a thru-hike experience, and the book is not actually *about* hiking so much as it's about her relationship with her mother. And to her credit, she doesn't claim the book is about a thru-hike either, but if you mention that you're a hiker to anyone not in the community (particularly if you're a young woman), the first thing out of their mouth is, "Oh, like Wild?"

No. Not like Wild! The opposite of that! I actually know what I'm doing, and I'm hiking because I enjoy the sport.

Bill Bryson's "A Walk in the Woods" mostly escapes the scorn, I think because a) Appalachian Trail people are a different breed, b) it's older and didn't inspire so many unprepared copycats, and c) he was obviously so terrible at it that nobody would assume you're following his example. He didn't elide the difference between a section hike and a thru-hike to the same extent, and also it's easier to get away with being a dilletante on AT. The PCT starts in the desert, and if you're unprepared you can irreparably damage the delicate environment and also possibly die. I'm heading southbound this year for my second PCT, specifically to escape the hordes of baby hikers who don't know how to dig a proper cathole.

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That all makes sense, although I have to imagine the obvious reason he escaped so much of the scorn was in fact the reason!

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Certainly also helps that he's a middle aged man who didn't talk about sex, drugs, or infidelity. It's a delicate line to walk, criticizing the popular conception of Wild without falling into the misogynistic and frankly cruel bashing of Cheryl Strayed herself. Wild is a good book! Cheryl is a good writer! It's just not about the PCT.

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As somebody who studied cognitive science, and specifically linguistics, at Johns Hopkins -- the home of "optimality theory", which has a grounding in the idea that the "rules" of a language will have a neural basis, and hence we might expect different language features to interact in ways that reinforce or suppress other features -- Stephen Pinker's transition from "The Language Instinct" (which is a quite good introduction to what linguistics _is_) to "Words and Rules" (which is drastically over-confident, and almost certainly wrong) is certainly disappointing. (And then his sister is a big proponent of the idea that male and female brains are somehow wildly different. Most serious cognitive scientists will tell you that Cordelia Fine's Delusions of Gender is a much better summary of the science on that.)

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Reality is Broken by Jane McGonigal. It was a pop culture sensation and I don’t know a single game developer who agrees with a word of it.

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!!

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Also a medievalist and I have a lot of books that maybe don't rise to the level of Manchester but I feel similarly about. Huizinga's Waning of the Middle Ages--this idea of the "childlike" middle ages and the application of recapitulation theory to history, which is fundamentally rooted in 19th century scientific racism, just makes me want to scream. I don't know how many people are reading Huizinga these days but I think his ideas persist among non-specialists even in adjacent fields who are just unaware of the racism that in my view is inseparable from them. And then Norbert Elias, for example, seems to draw pretty heavily on Huizinga's account of the violence and immediacy of the Middle Ages, which is a problem. And don't even get me started on Steven Pinker's fatuous little book.

But also, Huizinga via John Gardner's Life and Times of Geoffrey Chaucer was hugely influential on 14-year-old medievalist me, and the idea of a world where there was no loneliness or alienation, like no *possibility* of loneliness even, was so achingly seductive. I don't think I would have become the medievalist I did without that drawing me in. And the way that the Middle Ages gets so bizarrely othered (those weirdos with no sense of time! they're not like us!) actually made it feel like a long-lost home to me, and a place to think through my own sense of alterity, and one that was available to me in a way that other frameworks for approaching that were just not for a pre-teen in the 90s. I think medievalism does some really interesting things for queer kids grappling with queerness, or at least did when I was coming along. So I do understand why accounts like Huizinga's have such staying power.

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I imagine some of that is because of the distance? I remember getting assigned Huizinga when I did a study abroad history thing at Oxford but the tutor was pretty straightforward about the shortcomings/it didn't seem like it was being widely/popularly read as authoritative by dint of being from the 30s, but that's just a guess

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I am *so* enjoying reading everyone's comments btw--this is fantastic!

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My field 🤝 your field:

Hating Steven Pinker

By the way are there any books about daily life in late antiquity/the early middle ages that you do recommend? It's okay if they're very academic.

And how is Fools and Idiots regarded in your field?

Sorry if this is too many questions I just rarely get to talk to a medievalist and I think it's a really cool and interesting field!

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Thank you! So, as a disclaimer, I specialized in literature vs history and mostly 14th century, mostly things written in England, and I haven't been active in academia for years. I don't have a sense of how Fools and Idiots is regarded but I've got a message out to my historian friend who works in that very area so I'll report back if I hear from her! And I can't really speak to late antiquity/early middle ages but as far as books that touch on daily life in the later middle ages...I just read Richard Firth Green's Elf Queens and Holy Friars, and while it's not a general overview of daily life it offers an absolutely fascinating glimpse of it by way of beliefs about fairies and it's an entertaining read. If you've ever wondered what a 13th century bishop of Paris thinks about whether incubi actually enjoy sex, for example....

I'd also recommend The Ties that Bound: Peasant Families in Medieval England by Barbara Hanawalt.

And the Paston Letters! Tons of cool little details in those that give you a sense of daily life, at least among the gentry of 15th century England. Confessional manuals are good for that too--I recommend Handlyng Synne by Robert Mannyng of Brune.

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Oh I *absolutely* want to know what a 13th century bishop of Paris thinks about whether incubi enjoy sex—I need to know this *immediately*—and so this book is going to the top of my list. Thank you for all the recommendations!

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i don't really have a field, but a ways back i read Barbara Tuchmann's "Guns of August" and was raving on twitter about how much it ruled and was immediately slapped down in the comments by multiple *real* WWI historians quick to tell me why i wasted my time.

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I am several weeks late, but my field is human genetics. Does Jesse Singal count? heh

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